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  • #9853
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    cheslyn1
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    We have answers for Harley…he is very very hypothyroid. At least the little bugger did not come in borderline making us have to do more testing or guess!!

    T4 normal range (per vet, some website have different numbers) 13-53 – Harley is 6.4
    TSH normal range 0-0.6, Harley is 7.2!!!!

    Time for some reading and time for medicine. We are going to do another skin scraping though to check again for any clearer answers there to assist in getting the skin issues under control quicker. We are at 8 hot spots right now 🙁

    It will be interesting to see what kind of changes happen once he has been on the meds.

  • #64545
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    Just googled Hypothyroidism as I don’t know much about it. Hope the meds help him and that those skin issues are under control quickly!

  • #64548
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    Poor Harley! Hot spots and now hyothyroidism, too.

    The issue with hypothyroidism is finding the right dosage. (I know because I have this condition. I was born with it). Just like with insulin or any hormonal drug. Sometimes they get lucky and find it quickly. Sometimes it takes some tweaking. It’s apparently a very common condition in the Golden breed.

    Keep us posted on how the big fellow is doing!

  • #64546
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    There is a very good chance the skin and hot spots will get ‘fixed’ when we get this all under control. The skin issues and eye infections (which nothing seems to work consistently for) is the reason I decided to get it checked.

    I did change vets first —have to drive 45 minutes but I have a vet whose wife is one of the golden breeders I know. The other vet was nice and simple and close to home but he just never seemed like a dog person. He definitely did not know goldens or dog sports or showing.

    Scariest thing….a hypothyroidism symptom is lethargic behavor. What happens when we get it fixed….am I going to have 2 Maci’s LOL.

  • #64550
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    At last! So glad you finally have answers – not glad it’s hypothyroidism, but really it could be worse! Hopefully this will be the beginning of the end of Harley’s poor hot spots…NEVER fun to go through, can’t imagine 8 of them! Hope you’ll be feeling better soon Harley

  • #64551
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    @cheslyn1 64450 wrote:

    We have answers for Harley…he is very very hypothyroid. At least the little bugger did not come in borderline making us have to do more testing or guess!!

    T4 normal range (per vet, some website have different numbers) 13-53 – Harley is 6.4
    TSH normal range 0-0.6, Harley is 7.2!!!!

    Time for some reading and time for medicine. We are going to do another skin scraping though to check again for any clearer answers there to assist in getting the skin issues under control quicker. We are at 8 hot spots right now 🙁

    It will be interesting to see what kind of changes happen once he has been on the meds.

    I would have a full thyroid panel run. The T4 range could be low due to another issue falsely lowering it. I consulted with a thyroid specialist regarding mine and this is what she told me. I would be very hesitant to dose a dog unless a full panel is run personally.

    http://www.thedogplace.org/health/thyroid-1_lanting-0903.asp

    “One breeder-researcher-writer I corresponded with came up with an interesting analogy. He said, “T3 is the work-horse hormone. If there is a need, the pituitary gland signals the thyroid gland to send out TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone); the thyroid then produces T4, which in turn is converted into T3 and other thyroid hormones. T4 is the gas at the gas station, and the T3 is putting that gas to work. This is why simply measuring the T4 levels in a dog to diagnose hypothyroidism is not correct.” “

    http://usa.leventa.com/Vet/euthyroid.asp He could also have euthyroid

    Sulfa antibiotics, anti inflammatories (steriods), anti depressant and anti seizure medication can lower the T4 leading to a false diagnoses of hypothyroidism.

    http://animalendocrine.blogspot.ca/2011/02/how-do-we-confirm-diagnosis-of.html

    I played the thyroid game with mine and after sending results to MSU and Dr Dodds I finally got an answer mine was borderline low. He gets .4mg once a day and his skin infections have gotton better. Give to much, it could hurt them which is why I would redo the test and run a full panel. Free T4, T4, Free T3, T3, TSH and auto-antibodies.

  • #64549
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    Tammy hope Harley’s skin problems are starting to clear up. If they don’t and the skin scrapings don’t show anything, (as they never did with Carmel-after about 5 times). Ask for a biospy, lots of skin disorders will only show up that way. Hopefully won’t need to go that far. Carmel had been tested for Hypothroidism a few times, was never the problem in her case. Since I put Carmel on Zinc suppliments, last fall, we’ve been lucky not to have gotten any hot spots over the winter, and the ones she had when I started her on the Zinc, seemed to clear up faster than the previous times. She had two very bad and big ones on her side.

  • #64547
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    Skin biospy is next but the vet said he would be surprised if the thyroid was not the problem. I can not remember what was different between lamellar ichthyosis and Harley’s skin stuff but he listed one as a big difference and mentioned that LI is still rare. Harley does not have large white anything from his skin…lots of little black mud-like things 🙂

    Lincoln’s mom – we did the full, these are just the numbers I remembered. I find medical words, etc to be overwhelming to talk and write about but my career is in research so that is always done 🙂 I mgiht keep track of some of the numbers but will not overwhelm myself with fine details like that…my personality. I am comfortable with the vet as he is married to a golden breeder I know 🙂 We are on the low dose of 1 med (which I can not remember LOL) and will retest in a month. Harley has lots of other symptoms for hypothyroidism as well.

    LOL this family has been through lots of testing and playing around with meds between diabetes and lupus in us humans…now we get to ‘practice’ on Harley. The worst thing….if he improves I might lose my extra laidback, calm boy and get another Maci! (completely kidding of course)

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